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Currently, one of the
coolest and freshest metal
bands to have a significant
impact on the Metal scene is
the power metal band known
as Cellador. Although
the band has existed for
barely three years, they
have already gone through
several lineup changes and
managed to reap massive
gains in popularity to the
point where they are now on
major tours with bands such
as Trivium. Cellador
hails from Omaha, Nebraska
and they just recently
released their debut album
on Metalblade Records titled
Enter Deception
towards the end of 2006.
Recently we caught up with
the band’s newly added and
extremely friendly guitar
player Bill Hudson to talk
about the origins of the
band, how he exactly came
into the fold, their tour
with Trivium and, what the
future holds for Cellador as
a band.
Cellador is an extremely
fresh band having formed as
recently as 2004. Does
Cellador’s history trace
back any farther and how did
you guys come so far in so
little time?
Bill: Yeah that’s
something everybody asks.
Well actually the band
started in summer 2003 I
think, it was started by
Chris Peterson the other
guitar player and uh, he
basically wanted to
introduce the style to the
USA. I mean, three
years ago, it wasn’t very
well known, not that it is
nowadays but three years ago
nobody had a clue about what
it was. He wanted to do
something new so he started
placing ads everywhere and
the first person he found
was Dave Dahir the drummer,
who was only fifteen at the
time, he’s only seventeen
now, not that big of a
difference. So after
that he found Valentin
Rakhmanov the bass player
and by that time they
started like playing,
rehearsing as a three piece
and they also started
recording the demo which
came out in 2005, but they
started in 2004 actually,
late 2004 they started
recording the demo despite
the fact that they didn’t
have a singer at all.
So in January 2005, they
found Michael Gremio the
singer and the first thing
he did he started recording
the demo and playing live,
they were playing as a five
piece. And I was the last
one to join, I joined in
November, 2005 after I found
the band online when I was
in my country, I’m from
Brazil. And uh, I
found them online and you
know, their style is
extremely popular in my
country and you know, I was
online and I was like, wow
that’s really odd that a
band like that comes from
the states. So I
started researching about
them and I found out they
were looking for a guitar
player, I had lived in the
USA previously so I was
like, yeah since I know how
things work there, why not
try? And to my
surprise was things got even
better after I talked to
them and they told me they
were on Metalblade Records.
You know, that’s how we came
together and that’s how
we’ve been since November,
2005. As far as you
know how we got so far, I
don’t know, I think we are
hard workers. That’s
the best way to describe it.
I
don’t know if you’ll know
because of the fact that
you’re a more recent
addition to the band, but
there’s a movie called Donny
Darko. In the movie
Drew Barrymore, the
character she’s playing, she
quotes a linguist, a writer
basically saying that out of
all the phrases and words in
the English language
‘cellar’ and ‘door’ go so
well together. Does
that pertain to your name?
How did the band name come
about?
Bill: Well first of
all Donny Darko is one of my
favorite movies and I
thought that too, but you
know, oddly enough, it did
not come from the movie.
It was actually, it came
from an essay from 1955 by
JRR Tolkien, he wrote the
Lord of the Rings, you know,
the author. And he said that
a combination of cella and
dor created the most
beautiful sound in English.
The funny thing is that
Chris found out about it and
since he was starting a
power metal band he was
like, well you know what, it
does sound good, it sounds
epic, so I’m going to name
my band this, but he dropped
one of the Rs and it also
use to have another O but he
dropped one of the Os just
to be more unique. And
the funny thing is, after
that we found out that in
Tolkien’s language, there is
a word, I don’t remember
what it means but it’s
“cellador” with a hard C.
It’s just a big coincidence,
it’s not really from the
movie, it’s from Tolkien but
I’m pretty sure that the
movie came from this essay
too. Some people say
it was Edgar Allan Poe, but
I don’t really know who said
it first.
How
is it in that in three years
or such little time, you
guys have managed to release
a demo and get signed to
Metalblade Records? It
just seems like a ridiculous
and amazing feat.
Bill: I ask myself,
when I joined the band, it
was signed already so I
wasn’t part of it, but
basically here’s what
happened, they recorded the
demo and even before they
started really distributing
it, they were invited to
open a show for The Black
Dalia Murder in Omaha where
we live and uh, the guys
from The Black Dalia Murder
just freaked out, they were
like wow you guys are
incredible and Metalblade is
actually looking for a sound
like that, why don’t you
guys give us a demo....
So the story goes that Chris
doesn’t even have a copy of
the demo so he had to drive
all the way to his house
which was like a half an
hour away from the venue to
burn a copy of the CD, he
didn’t really expect
anything, he was like why
would Metalblade call us.
So twelve days later Brian
Slagel (Metalblade’s owner)
calls him and offers him a
contract. Even more
weird is that Cellador
wasn’t suppose to play that
show, it was a different
local band from Omaha that
dropped out and then
Cellador was like a last
minute replacement, I guess
it was meant to be.
You
guys have been labeled as a
power metal band but you’ve
played with death metal
bands, hardcore bands, many
different types of music.
What do you feel about this
whole labeling thing?
How is it that your music
seems to be popular amongst
so many different types of
kids?
Bill: Yeah, you know
we are definitely a power
metal band, those are our
biggest influences.
But we add to that more
extreme metal, such as
thrash metal, death metal,
you see, Metallica, Megadeth,
Pantera, Slayer are bands
that we love and that
definitely influenced us.
And uh, that’s why we end up
playing with creative bands
like that, but on the other
hand, what other options
would we have? We were
talking to another power
metal band that is getting
kind of popular and they
were saying you know, we
want to play with other
types of bands, like
hardcore, but they’re from
Europe. Yeah we’re
trying to get more into the
hardcore, metalcore scene so
more people will know about
us, because the scene is
definitely bigger than power
metal. And we were
like, we do the same, we
just don’t have any other
options.
So
being one of the few popular
power metal bands in the
U.S., you’re forced to look
at other styles of music?
Bill: Exactly!
Trivium was the closest
style we could think to tour
with. But on the other
hand, I think people are
opening their minds you know
and we may be able to open
it.... A couple of
years ago, the bands on MTV
with all the low tuning,
singing about nothing
basically, mumbling about
life.... Nowadays, a
band on MTV has guitar
solos, they have melody and
at the same time Cellador,
even though we are power
metal, we are faster and
heavier. So I don’t
know, in my opinion, things
are kind of united you know,
a couple of years ago there
will be no labels anymore
probably. I think
Trivium is a good example of
that, on their new album no
screams at all, all singing.
Unlike other power metal
bands that sing about
fantasy and dragons and
such, you guys tend to sing
about more real world
topics. Why did you
guys decide to change from
the power metal norm?
Bill: That was just
natural you know. Even
though Chris wrote all the
songs before I joined the
band, I was apart of some of
the lyric writing. And
we don’t sit and say let’s
not talk about dragons, but
we don’t say let’s talk
about dragons, you know,
let’s see what do I want to
talk about. We are
young people you know and we
have to deal with issues
that everyone else has to
deal with and we think that
the way we deal with our
issues helps improve the
character, it’s something
about self improvement.
Basically what we think is
that you shouldn’t change
what you are and what you
believe in order to fit a
certain trend or a group of
people or whatever else.
But at the same time we are
musicians, not preachers, so
if we were saying hey don’t
change because we said so,
it would be the same, just
the other way around.
So basically we sing about
the way we deal with our
lives and how we improve our
characters. If you
listen to the song and
you’re like, whoah that
catches me then good, if you
don’t then don’t, just
listen to the song.
But every word we say is how
we feel, how we live our
lives.
Enter Deception, your
first Metalblade release,
your first full length album
released in June, 2006.
Tell me a bit about the
writing and recording
process and how you feel
about the CD in general.
Bill: Yeah I wasn’t
part of the writing process
of this album at all because
when I joined the band they
already had the songs done.
But uh, it does represent a
lot for me because I was in
the studio and I did record
my guitar solos, and I did
do a lot, wait not a lot,
all of the vocal harmonies.
This is stuff that I had to
think about so I do have a
connection with all of the
songs and most of the
lyrical content has to do
with the way I live my life.
So Enter Deception’s
definitely the first album
I’m in. And the
writing process as far as
what I saw when I joined the
band is Chris basically
makes the demos in his own
home studio and then he
brings them to the rest of
the band so they learn their
parts and give their input.
And after that, after we
play everything as a band,
we re-record the songs, this
time with vocals and ok,
let’s see, what can we do
for this song? But on
the next album, that’s how
we work, I did the writing
that we did so far, but I
know Chris has ideas, I know
that he has a lot of them.
And as far as the recording,
it was a great experience
you know, Erik Rutan our
producer, he’s just, he’s
like a flawless human being,
real friendly, real nice but
at the same time very
professional. You
know, if you can do it
better, he will make you do
it better but he’s not going
to be a dick about it.
Speaking of your debut
record Enter Deception,
at least from what you’ve
seen, how have people been
responding to it?
What’s the reaction been
like to the CD?
Bill: It’s
surprisingly overwhelming
honestly. I haven’t
read bad... well I have read
a couple of bad reviews from
Europe, more talking about
the fact that we don’t have
keyboards you know. I
mean you can’t please
everyone, but it’s been
incredible, I cannot believe
the reaction. We
toured with Bullet for My
Valentine before and I
thought people would hate
us, but no, I just can’t
believe, whether it’s the
numbers or sales or people
who ask for us to sign the
CD, or people going “dude
that changed my life, it’s
so awesome.” I can’t
believe it, it’s incredible
and I speak for the whole
band.
When comparing Cellador’s
first EP, the one that came
out a couple of years ago,
how do you personally feel
about the transition of the
music from that EP to
Enter Deception?
Bill: It’s an
incredible evolution,
there’s no doubt about that.
Playing wise, you know
because I’m not on the demo,
I didn’t play on the demo,
but I know Chris and I
played with him and I know
how much better he is
nowadays than he is on the
demo. But for me to
highlight when it comes to
improvement, it’s Mike, like
he doesn’t sound like the
same person to me, it’s
definitely an evolution.
But I think at that time,
what they wanted to do with
that demo was perfect, the
songs were slower, all the
songs are sped up now
because we have more
experience and we’re heavier
and we’re more aggressive
but for that time I think
the demo was perfect, I
think it’s just a natural
evolution.
Just like Trivium, your band
is full of younger guys.
Do you think the fact that
you’re all young is going to
allow you to grow a lot with
each record because you’re
still learning about your
various instruments and how
to make music?
Bill: Yeah sure, I
hope so because you know,
that’s one thing, me and
Dave, Dave’s only seventeen
but he’s been playing since
he was like... he was
talking to me the other day
and he said when he was
three years old he was
already starting to play so
Dave’s been doing this his
whole life. I started
to play when I was eleven so
we’ve been doing this for a
long time. But I do
think as a band and
especially when it comes to
touring, doing videos and
all this stuff, we are
definitely growing and our
age has to do with it.
We are still kids and we’ll
always be kids but I mean,
maturity, when it comes to
touring and stuff like that,
there are still a lot of
things that we have to
learn.
On
select dates of your tour,
you guys have been able to
share the stage with
Trivium. How has this
experience been for you and
how did it happen that you
were added to the Trivium
tour?
Bill: Well it all
started when Mike our singer
went to do some promotion at
Sounds of the Underground,
he went with Brian Slagel
the president and owner of
Metalblade to you know, make
contacts. It turns out
that Brian met the guys from
Trivium and they were real
fans of us, they knew songs
and names of our songs and
we were like, it would be
cool if we could tour
together. So Brian
went back and when we all
went to Sounds of the
Underground, it was in the
middle of our last tour in
the summer, Corey and Matt
came to us and they’re like
so you guys want those
dates? As far as the
experience goes, I’m trying
to think of something bad to
talk about. [laughs]
The band is incredible with
us, the crew is incredible.
This show, this very show in
Toronto, I broke the strap
buckle of my guitar and
Calvin, their guitar tech in
no time ran and fixed my
guitar, in the middle of the
song and he’s not even my
guitar tech, they are
incredible. And the
other bands, Protest the
Hero and The Sword are great
bands, great guys, we’ve
been hanging out and
drinking together. I
don’t know what to say, I’m
really sad that we’re
leaving today but I guess
that’s it. I mean I
hope in the future we tour
more.
What does Cellador have
planned for the rest of 2006
and the beginning of 2007?
Bill: We are talking
about a US tour with another
power metal band, I’d rather
not say the name right now
because it’s not confirmed.
That would probably be
around December, January,
something like that.
After that there is some
talk about Japan and even
Europe with Trivium, but
none of this is confirmed.
What we want to do, we were
just talking about it, we’re
going to get home, spend
five or six days doing
nothing and after that,
we’re going to start
rehearsing again the new
songs because we already
have new songs we’ve never
played as a band.
Any
final thoughts?
Bill: If you’re
reading this interview and
you never heard of our music
I’m sure that now you’re
curious. If you’re
not, it’s cool! Go get
our album that came out on
June 27th via Metalblade
Records, I am sure you will
not be disappointed,
regardless of the style you
listen to.
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